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🌸 lumi-nhac catbite no_ai antifa 🌱 @lumi@snug.moe
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idk how suitable fedi is for e2ee dms, but i also feel like we should take what we can get

if e2ee dms on fedi are what eventually gets us to more people using decentralized e2ee comms, then i'll def take it
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walnut 🌱 @walnut@thesoftestpaws.net
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There are people/creatures/entities working on various parts of it. I think it'd be cool if they're able to pull off key transparency from the start rather than trying to bolt it on later

soatok.blog/2025/12/15/announcing-key-transparency-fediverse/
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🌸 lumi-nhac catbite no_ai antifa 🌱 @lumi@snug.moe
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@walnut oh yeah i saw that

would be neat if this could then also be applied to xmpp, matrix, deltachat and others
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ity [unit X-69] - VIOLENT FUCK @ity@estradiol.city
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@lumi @walnut can I get an unsoatok'd version
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🌸 lumi-nhac catbite no_ai antifa 🌱 @lumi@snug.moe
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@ity @walnut what's wrong with soatok?

i may disagree with his stances on signal, but he seems pretty great
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ity [unit X-69] - VIOLENT FUCK @ity@estradiol.city
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@lumi @walnut he's like ChatGPT, confidently spewing nonsense
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walnut 🌱 @walnut@thesoftestpaws.net
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oh I don't care for his dramatic "analyses" on messengers but as far as I can tell his other work is good, and I like the idea of key transparency. I'm also sympathetic to his cause of getting furries to stop using telegram.

But here are some ietf drafts on key transparency
datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-keytrans-architecture/ (includes a federated use case)
datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-keytrans-protocol/ actual mathy stuff

I'm fairly sure this is what signal is basing their key transparency implementation on, but I can't find the comment that made me think that again
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ity [unit X-69] - VIOLENT FUCK @ity@estradiol.city
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@walnut @lumi o, imma check out the IETF stuff

I'd say someone that says complete bullshit in his dramatic blogposts and outright lies, makes shit up, or says outright wrong stuff that he should know better if he has any idea what he's doing, tells me that, well, either he has absolutely no idea what he's doing and sucks this bad, or is being malicious and hoping nobody notices he's making shit up

If he wants to be dramatic, at least do it the way Bernstein did it; don't make basic mistakes in cryptography and cybersec, just conveniently omit information.
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ity [unit X-69] - VIOLENT FUCK @ity@estradiol.city
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@walnut @lumi (for context, I had to deal with the FUD he spread about Matrix because I was one of the community Matrix devs working on Matrix security. The funniest thing, Matrix is insecure as fuck. So there's no reason to make shit up as FUD. One can just... Talk about the actual security issues. But yk... For that he would need to actually be good at cybersec. But instead he made shit up. I wonder why neobot_think)
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