@ireneista@futurebird And in all three people dream of what could be done if we started from a clean slate, only to make old mistakes, or more exciting, discover brand new mistakes and tradeoffs :)
@futurebird@ireneista You will not be able to convince me there is a good reason why "maintain" and "maintenance" are the way they are. Every time I have to use either I need to correct it
politics, framework@reece Look, I get not fully vetting everybody you happen to send a laptop to. I feel I've been pretty clear on that. But other people noticed, brought it up, and they sure cared to do everything but denounce any association with him, continue to send him laptops, and explicitly include his politics in their "big tent". I dunno man
politics, framework@reece This whole thing would have been really easy to avoid. All it would have taken is a "we weren't aware, we'll look into it." followed by an "we want to end any formal or informal relationship with DHH on account of him sucking."
But they haven't done that. That, to me, says a lot about the people behind framework.
They keep sending him laptops, so I'm not sure what else you want here? They choose to associate with him, and he shouts out their hardware. They also think that it's okay to work with white supremacists in the name of a "big tent". This is rather simple math.
politics, bad news@reece Like the second link quotes
We support open source software (and hardware), and partner with developers and maintainers across the ecosystem. We deliberately create a big tent, because we want open source software to win. We don’t partner based on individual’s or organization’s beliefs, values, or political stances outside of their alignment with us on increasing the adoption of open source software.
>I definitely understand that not everyone will agree with taking a big tent approach, but we want to be transparent that bringing in and enabling every organization and community that we can across the Linux ecosystem is a deliberate choice.
Absent from that response, and any of their responses? A recognition of any wrong doing, intentional or not. A total and complete refusal even. I shouldn't have to say this, but your "big tent" cannot include white supremacists. They've since sent him new hardware, even after that. Pretending otherwise at that point is not even willful ignorance, it's complacency.
Getting a bit meta now, with every community, you need to figure out who it's for and who it's not for, and then stick to it. It can't be for everybody, and if you include bigots, you'll find that their targets will leave, leaving you in a room full of bigots.
politics, bad news@reece The thing is I expect a better response from them than "oh well, we're going to keep sending him laptops anyway.". Had it simply been "we didn't know, we didn't think to vet for that, but we won't continue any longer" it would have been fine. Their response was disappointing, and they continue to support a known white supremacist who's hostile to the tech community long after plausible deniability of ignorance.
re: shitpost that turned into some form of bodyhorror I think@anarceus It needs exercise too and besides it's been a good heart, it can spook some people from the shadows at night as they hear the wet beating approaching. As a treat
