@futurebird I, didn't even realise that was something that people still thought was real. But I shouldn't be surprised, I know that in the 19th century at least conman and surely true believers did it, and it's not like we're a different kind of human that doesn't believe silly things anymore.
@ireneista@siderea I also understand why there may be less demand by people for that, both because they may not know it's an option and because people who do invest time to build expertise in a software frequently get burned by an update that changes everything under their feet seemingly for the sake of change. But it is frustrating.
unsolicted distro recomendation (the worst kind of post)@fschaap@ludoloon Elementary OS looks pretty decent. I used to install fedora for people to help set them up, but elementry's Pantheon desktop, app center, and values seem solid and is what I've got on a usb drive for next time.
Also, whatever distro or browser you help set up do her a favor and install adblock for her.
@AnarchoNinaWrites Trolling is actually correct there! Although it definitely looks weird to me cause I think annoying person or monster before searching. Trawling works too; both are also fishing.
@lumi I still think keeping backups forever is mutually exclusive to really using PFS even if you throw away the ephemeral keys and re-encrypt the messages like signal does. But even if you or your contacts have message backups enabled, signal doesn't include view once media or messages that disappear in less than (or equal to?) 24 hours, which I think makes sense and is a nice way to "opt out".
Yes, technically someone could save every message ever sent to them, but if you don't trust someone to play nice then don't message them something you don't want them to keep. No end to end encryption can protect you if the end is malicious.
What I really dislike about element's implementation isn't just that it keeps the ephemeral keys but that element almost feels dark patterny trying to get you to enable it.
@ity@lumi oh I don't care for his dramatic "analyses" on messengers but as far as I can tell his other work is good, and I like the idea of key transparency. I'm also sympathetic to his cause of getting furries to stop using telegram.
@lumi There are people/creatures/entities working on various parts of it. I think it'd be cool if they're able to pull off key transparency from the start rather than trying to bolt it on later
Maybe I see it this way because I deeply struggle with executive function, and I myself can't just DO things even if I really want to,
I've seen people argue that these tools are great for helping manage executive dysfunction and have it write a calendar, todo list, break something it steps, or whatever, and it's frustrating to see them sold as an accessibility tool. I'm not sure what to think about people that say it does help them. If a todo list were enough then I'd have solved everything by now.
